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 Posted: Tue Apr 17th, 2007 05:10 pm

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These just arrived and I will get to take one on its maiden voyage today at lunch. I will try to post more info and pics on it later.

More info on the bike can be found here:
http://www.konaworld.com/bikes/2k7/LISASUPREMERD/index.html

Our team bikes are outfitted with:

SRAM Force drivetrain
SRAM Rival brakes

Easton Orion II Wheelset
Easton handlebar, stem, seatpost
Selle San Marco saddle
Crankbrothers Quattro pedals
Schwalbe Stelvio tires
Fuzzy flair

Those who opted for standard geometry will be riding the Zing Supreme
http://www.konaworld.com/bikes/2k7/ZINGSUPREME/index.html

We'll have more pics and feedback from the team as they receive and build up their new bikes. We also will have a few extra VB-K paint job frames available for sale. Look for info on that soon...


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ooh.. so new. SO pretty.

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Very pretty - you'll love the SRAM gruppo.  I can't wait to see y'all racing on these sweet machines.  You'll not only be stylish and beautiful, you'll be fast gear-heads too! 

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There is a super cool pic of VBs on the Kona website from the link above.  I saw it but then it switches each time to a new pic.

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yah that is Kele Murdin (no longer on VB), Jen Chapman and Leiselot Decroix (Bel) from last year racing at Gastown in Canada.
Those shots were taken by the Kona foks photographer.

More of those here.
http://www.pbase.com/sdukes/bc_superweek

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 Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2007 06:18 pm

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WELL??? How was the maiden voyage???

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Well, my first ride was spent fiddling with fit stuff like saddle height, saddle tilt, bar rotation and flair placement.

My lunch ride was basically me riding in circles by my car, returning to the car, throwing allan wrenches all over the place because I kept forgetting which ones were the right size (why doesn't everything on the bike just use one size alan key?), rinse repeat.

I have a sneaking suspicion that after all was said and done, that I eventually put everything back to the place it was in when I first got on the bike.

I have to say though, that the saddle tilt adjustment on the Easton EC 90 is a breeze. USually tilt adjustment completely spazzes me out and all the bolts and cover things fall out of place. But in this post, you just loosen one side and tighten the other to tilt it one way or the other. Very cool. Which is probably why I futzed with it so much.

Easton EC 90 Seatpost

Unfortunately, I need an offset post, so I won't be using this post once the offsets arrive. I hope the tilt adjustment thingie on the offset is just as clever.



 

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But I did take the bike out the next day. It was crazy super windy which made evaluating the bike difficult because after Sea Otter I am pretty much over the wind and wanted nothing more than to go back to my car and read a book instead.

Firstly, I am currently riding a carbon bike (orbea Orca). My prior bikes were all either carbon or steel. THis is the first time I have ridden an aluminum frame. I am not a sophisticated enough bike reviewer type person to know if what I am feeling on the bike is due to frame material, geometry, or what I had for lunch. But I'll tell you what I felt anyhooo...

The Lisa Supreme is made of Dedacciai Hydroform Aluminum Frame w/Carbon Seat Stays and a Dedacciai Black Force 4 Carbon Fork


The tube shape of the Hydroform takes some getting used to, aesthetically. In an era of svelte curvy frames, Kona has choosen this material. I will have to ask them why for certain, but I think that this frame material is one of the lightest in aluminum and probably well suited to a women's frameset.

The bike is pretty light. I have no idea what it weighs though...I'll have to put it on a scale.

Other frame manufacturers are also beginning to use this tubing in some of their hooptyier frames. Check out this Moser frame with a $1,800K price tag with the same frame, fork and rear as the Lisa!

First thing I noticed was that this bike is laterally very stiff (i.e. doesn't feel mushy side to side). I can usually roll a bike underneath me fairly easy, but this bike just wanted to go forward. It was a little unnerving at first, because i wasn't used to that, but once I got used to it, it made me feel super strong while sprinting. Its also very nice when climbing, because when you stand to climb, and put that first leg down, the bike really jumps forward. I need that.

On the descents, I actually over steered the first few corners. I am guessing that the geomtry is just that different from my Orbea, which I need to push a little in the corners. The Lisa was far more responsive. I carved a few corners on the crit course by my work and it was pretty sweet. I'm stoked about trying out this bike at Wente this weekend!

As for the women's geometry on this bike: because of my height and proportions, I usually opt for standard, not women's geometry, but decided to give this bike a go. I do need an offset seatpost to fit in the cockpit and behind the bb like I am used to. However, the nicest touch is the slightly taller headtube. This enables me to get the size frame I need, without a gazillion inches of stack height to get the stem at the height I need. Currently, my stack height is perfect as it fits flair just right!

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Hydroforming is pretty cool. I used to get to play with it when i worked with copper on custom roof accents.

This link gives a pretty good writeup without too much flirting with the reality of its benifits. (although its for the paris)
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT&PRODUCT.ID=1236


good stuff, cant wait to hear how it works out at Wente. Sprint baby sprint

-Brent

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Someone asked me:

What is an offset seat post?

An offset seatpost is sometimes referred to as a seatpost with setback or layback. Basically its a seatpost that allows the rider to seat further back than a conventional seat post.

I have longish femurs and as such, prefer to sit behind my bottom bracket. An offset seatpost allows me to accomplish that. Even with an offset post, my saddle is usually slammed as far back as it can go.

This is the Easton version of that post

 

 

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Very pretty.  Me likey, especially since it's blue.

I only ride the blue bikes ;)

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Just a quick update.

At first, I wasn't used to the Lisa RD and it felt a little twitchy. That feeling went away within the first crit. By the time I finished racing Wente crit, I loved the aggressive feel fo the bike. It totally railed the corners and I felt confident taking it into a pretty mean lean. I love taking corners on the inside in crits, and I felt completely relaxed doing it on the Lisa RD.

But I was a little worried I would pay for that stiffness in the "cobbles" of the Madera Road race.

NOT

The bike was a champ over the cobbles. The carbon fork and seat stays must be enough to absorb the shock, because i rolled over the bumpies just fine.


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nice.. kick some booty Sabine!

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Can someone post a pic of a the Pro MTB team's Hei Heis?  Did they get custom paint jobs?

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SlowPoke2320 wrote: Can someone post a pic of a the Pro MTB team's Hei Heis?  Did they get custom paint jobs?

All I saw at Sea Otter were the hardtails...so thats all I have a pic of. Maybe someone from the mtb team can answer your question and post a pic though.

 

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velobella wrote: SlowPoke2320 wrote: Can someone post a pic of a the Pro MTB team's Hei Heis?  Did they get custom paint jobs?

All I saw at Sea Otter were the hardtails...so thats all I have a pic of. Maybe someone from the mtb team can answer your question and post a pic though.

 


And the hardtails were crazy light!

But the bike I was most jealous of was Rene Ridgely's King Supreme. She somehow managed to get a 4" travel bike to about 22 pounds. So impressive.

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And here's another view of the Lisa Supreme RD

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I just saw it this morning and wanted to mention that while flipping the pages of the new issue of Road Bike Action Magazine (#2?), page 35 (?) has a great pic of the production orange colored version of the Kula Lisa with the Bella logo, and notations that it is the "Official Bike of the Velo Bella Racing Team" - and has the team logos at the bottom of the page. 

So very, very cool! :D

 P.S. I'm sure that at home I have some pics of the VB styled Hei Hei's, I'll try to post them as soon as I can find them.  Alex F. and Sara J. seemed to love them. 

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